this nut is a white guy watching this conversation/argument/fight unfold and chuckling to himself about how he wins again and again.

Is Kung Fu a subculture? Martial Arts is a culture thing like Hip Hop is you asshat. Most schools in the states still train using the martial arts native langauage. Do understand what we are saying now?

Listening to you make me think of a White guy who like hip hop said about an Asian rapper he saw. “Why would anyone listen to an Asian Rapper. They hate Black people more than we do and understand them far less.” Sadly your crap makes this nut seem like he might know what he’s talking about.

Since you don’t want to listen to a Black point of view. Talk to Oliver Wang and Jeff Chang on this subject. I’m sure you will be very surprised on hat they will tell you.

RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE COMMENT:

Being my friend that Africa is the original and oldest cilivization in the world, would it not stand to reason that many creative art forms used and viewed in today’s society were introduced by that “Originator” and then expounded upon and profited from by other civilizations who would fall into the catagory of “Imitators.

That said. I don’t feel that Black America is trying to deny Asians a presence in the hip hop culture. I feel that Black America is denying Asians the right to claim hip hop soley as their creation. I ask where were the so-called down Asians hip hopsters decades ago when this underground cultural moverment was struggling against all odds for the approval of main stream society and the world at large, to be recognized and accepted as another legitimate expression of the art form.

I feel that Asians do not at this point in the game get a free pass to demand to be a part of and to capitilize off of the success of those who fought long and hard for hip hop, breaking, bboying, locking, freestyling, etc., and the list goes on and on, because they think it should be a free for now all and winner take all.

It’s true that Blacks have borrowed some of your kung fu and karate moves to incorporate into their own. Thats only considered a give and take situation with most cultures. No offense taken and none give. But it’s considered an insult when another culture comes along and blatantly takes what is not theirs from the beginning and try to twist it into another one of “His Stories” through underhanded manipulation and deception with winner take all.

I’ve recently been watching this new MTV show called Randy Jackson Presents “America’s Best Dance Crew” and I’ve noticed that 75-90 per cent of the dance crew contestants vying for the ultimate $100,000 prize are of Asian descent. The show is now in its 2nd season and people are still talking about the 1st season when they were on. In fact, the winners, runner-ups and eliminated performers for both shows are for the majority of Asian descent. Which makes me wonder why the sudden influx, interest and visibility of so many Asians in this area of performance. I just never thought this was something high on their priority list.

I also see that within in the last 10 years or so there have been bboy dance contest being held all over the world (USA included) where Asians have been partiscipating on a large scale, and, winning on a consistant basis. In fact, they seem to be dominating the hip hop, bboying, locking, freestyling, etc genres. Whenever I watch You Tube videos I keep wondering where are all the Black and Latino brothers at in all this? Their presence seems to have almost become exstinct in this area.

It also seems that whenever a Black bboy takes on a dance challengce against an Asian bboy, he somehow loses. It seems as if the very art form that his culture helped to created and introduce now pales by comparison in the eyes of the judges to the performance and skill levels of his new Asian competitor.

I think the sudden interest in this “new dance culture” by others is slowly working it’s way up to becoming a legitimate competition in the World Olympics. Original Hip Hop/BBoys/BGirls get your game up.

So my question to you…. do you really believe Asians are have not been embraced by the hip hop culture? Peace.

What do you think about Asian American Hip Hop? Why not just call it Hip Hop? Why break away from the mainstream. That Like saying Black Kung fu.

The core element of is Hip Hop African American and AFRICAN. RAP can be traced from Jamaica to Africa. Yes Latinos help shape Hip Hop (Mainly Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and Cubans). Do you know what Latinos did to set in stone there place in the Hip Hop kingdom? You are talking about a group who fought for this thing from the early days. Asians have long way to go.

Asians are very protective of their culture so in turn I would expect you to expect the same from African Americans. No one is saying Asians can’t take part in Hip Hop. But respect and understanding are needed.

As for asians doing their hair like blacks, it is very understandable that they do this. In America, on TV, magazines, and every other form of media, the only celebrities and idols seem to be either black or white. That is the majority. So the asian youth, like all other youth, choose idols and people to look up to. So is it going to be michael jordan? thom yorke? kurt cobain? Nas? i mean, whatever they choose it’ll be either black or white. Young people want to be like, and look like their idols. So if the person they look up to has an afro, then they’ll get their hair like that, because thats who they look up to. it is not that they want to be black, it is because they want to like they person they look up to. This is not ridiculous at all. what else can they do? there aren’t many asian superstars in the american media.

When i younger, i was very into graffiti. Graffiti, the kind from New York started by poor black, latino, and cacausian kids. Not started by Asian kids. But by practicing my painting skills and doing graffiti in the middle or the night everywhere for a number of years, i was a part of this culture. I was authentically part of this culture not started by asian kids. Because i contributed to it. i have as much right to be a part of the graffiti culture as a black person, or lationo person or cacausian person. because it comes down to you as an artist, not your race. If my skills and style are better than the other person, thats all that should matter, not my race. i mean, am i wrong? this seems very logical to me. i talk about this graffiti thing, because it is similar to this hip hop topic we are on right now.

Anyways, thats all i can really think of right now.