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	<title>Comments on: Noah&#039;s Arc: Why I Want to Hate it, But Can&#039;t!!!</title>
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		<title>By: T. Evans</title>
		<link>http://kenyonfarrow.com/2008/10/27/noahs-arc-why-i-want-to-hate-it-but-cant/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t seen the movie yet, but the series did kinda grow on me... Whenever I heard folks give those real serious and, IMO, over-analytical (and often negative) reviews of the show I just chalked it up to folks wanting the first blk gay TV series to be what THEY wanted it to be -- which was usually all-encompassing. And patently unrealistic... I took the show for what it was, and enjoyed it while it lasted... I did the same with &quot;The DL Chronicles&quot; also.

On another note, I noticed one of the negative review points Kenyon mentioned was the marriage thang... I&#039;ve never gotten with his whole critique thing of gay-marriage. Why should it matter who is behind the push for the legal establishment of a legitimate civil right? I mean, it&#039;s either a good thing or it ain&#039;t.

And in no way could I ever be persuaded that being able to legally marry the man that I fall in love with is a bad thing, or is somehow contrary to the interest of Black folk, regardless of other more pressing Black social needs... What, we never heard of multi-taskin&#039;?

Love my lil&#039; brothers beautiful mind but I gotta disagree on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t seen the movie yet, but the series did kinda grow on me&#8230; Whenever I heard folks give those real serious and, IMO, over-analytical (and often negative) reviews of the show I just chalked it up to folks wanting the first blk gay TV series to be what THEY wanted it to be &#8212; which was usually all-encompassing. And patently unrealistic&#8230; I took the show for what it was, and enjoyed it while it lasted&#8230; I did the same with &#8220;The DL Chronicles&#8221; also.</p>
<p>On another note, I noticed one of the negative review points Kenyon mentioned was the marriage thang&#8230; I&#8217;ve never gotten with his whole critique thing of gay-marriage. Why should it matter who is behind the push for the legal establishment of a legitimate civil right? I mean, it&#8217;s either a good thing or it ain&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And in no way could I ever be persuaded that being able to legally marry the man that I fall in love with is a bad thing, or is somehow contrary to the interest of Black folk, regardless of other more pressing Black social needs&#8230; What, we never heard of multi-taskin&#8217;?</p>
<p>Love my lil&#8217; brothers beautiful mind but I gotta disagree on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Andrew Agarrat</title>
		<link>http://kenyonfarrow.com/2008/10/27/noahs-arc-why-i-want-to-hate-it-but-cant/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Andrew Agarrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@elg, whoever you are:

You may not realize this, but Kenyon is being a gracious host.

What I don&#039;t understand about &#039;support&#039; of this film is this: if it reflects your lifestyle and world view so adequately, how are you promoting this film besides coming to someone else&#039;s blog and attempting to diminish its author&#039;s opinion by insinuating your own?  Starting one&#039;s own blog (and with 5 paragraphs of content, to boot) costs considerably less than purchasing a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@elg, whoever you are:</p>
<p>You may not realize this, but Kenyon is being a gracious host.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t understand about &#8216;support&#8217; of this film is this: if it reflects your lifestyle and world view so adequately, how are you promoting this film besides coming to someone else&#8217;s blog and attempting to diminish its author&#8217;s opinion by insinuating your own?  Starting one&#8217;s own blog (and with 5 paragraphs of content, to boot) costs considerably less than purchasing a home.</p>
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		<title>By: elg</title>
		<link>http://kenyonfarrow.com/2008/10/27/noahs-arc-why-i-want-to-hate-it-but-cant/#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>elg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the article comparing the incomes of black gay couples to straight black couples in Cali.

The movie &quot;Noah&#039;s Arc: Jumping the Broom&quot;, however, is not a documentary. It&#039;s a comedy/dramedy.  That means disbelief is suspended and the black gay characters can have a happy ending in pleasant surroundings.

You wrote, “it’s a good time … much of the film is laugh out loud funny… I was never bored …”.  Why does this comedy/dramedy (or ANY comedy/dramedy) have to be more than that? A comedy that is a &quot;good time&quot;, &quot;laugh out loud funny&quot; and &quot;never [boring]&quot; is a success. Period.

By the way, I read the review of the play you starred in. You must be a gifted actor. I wish I had seen the play.  I love James Baldwin. If that&#039;s you at the top, you are an attractive young man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the article comparing the incomes of black gay couples to straight black couples in Cali.</p>
<p>The movie &#8220;Noah&#8217;s Arc: Jumping the Broom&#8221;, however, is not a documentary. It&#8217;s a comedy/dramedy.  That means disbelief is suspended and the black gay characters can have a happy ending in pleasant surroundings.</p>
<p>You wrote, “it’s a good time … much of the film is laugh out loud funny… I was never bored …”.  Why does this comedy/dramedy (or ANY comedy/dramedy) have to be more than that? A comedy that is a &#8220;good time&#8221;, &#8220;laugh out loud funny&#8221; and &#8220;never [boring]&#8221; is a success. Period.</p>
<p>By the way, I read the review of the play you starred in. You must be a gifted actor. I wish I had seen the play.  I love James Baldwin. If that&#8217;s you at the top, you are an attractive young man.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenyon Farrow</title>
		<link>http://kenyonfarrow.com/2008/10/27/noahs-arc-why-i-want-to-hate-it-but-cant/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenyon Farrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your dictionary definition, but I was a theatre major in undergrad, and a professional actor  before I left of my own accord to do writing and community organizing, so I am well briefed on the difference between comedy and drama, or dramedy, for that matter. I hope you found it useful to look up however. http://theater2.nytimes.com/mem/theater/treview.html?res=9B06E7D91E39F930A35750C0A9669C8B63

It seems that the place of tension for you in my write-up about the film is where I am critiquing the class politics of the film. You used the words &quot;ghetto&quot; and &quot;slums.&quot; I didn&#039;t.  But yes, not all of us are either poor or filthy rich, though we know the reality that being black means you&#039;re a hell of a lot less likely to be wealthy. I am happy your house is paid for. There are a lot of people, gay, queer straight or what have you, who aren&#039;t so lucky, given the current crisis.  I am also well aware of the fact that Black people have historically owned property on Martha&#039;s Vinyard.  I didn&#039;t really take issue with that, necessarily.

But since you&#039;re so well-off and smarter than me, have you seen these latest data about Black gay couples who are married in California? They still make far less than white same sex couples. Before you get on your moral high horse about how well off most of us are, and how dare I raise questions about class politics in this movie, take a look at this data. http://www.365gay.com/news/study-black-gay-couples-fall-behind-earnings-of-straight-couples/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your dictionary definition, but I was a theatre major in undergrad, and a professional actor  before I left of my own accord to do writing and community organizing, so I am well briefed on the difference between comedy and drama, or dramedy, for that matter. I hope you found it useful to look up however. <a href="http://theater2.nytimes.com/mem/theater/treview.html?res=9B06E7D91E39F930A35750C0A9669C8B63" rel="nofollow">http://theater2.nytimes.com/mem/theater/treview.html?res=9B06E7D91E39F930A35750C0A9669C8B63</a></p>
<p>It seems that the place of tension for you in my write-up about the film is where I am critiquing the class politics of the film. You used the words &#8220;ghetto&#8221; and &#8220;slums.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t.  But yes, not all of us are either poor or filthy rich, though we know the reality that being black means you&#8217;re a hell of a lot less likely to be wealthy. I am happy your house is paid for. There are a lot of people, gay, queer straight or what have you, who aren&#8217;t so lucky, given the current crisis.  I am also well aware of the fact that Black people have historically owned property on Martha&#8217;s Vinyard.  I didn&#8217;t really take issue with that, necessarily.</p>
<p>But since you&#8217;re so well-off and smarter than me, have you seen these latest data about Black gay couples who are married in California? They still make far less than white same sex couples. Before you get on your moral high horse about how well off most of us are, and how dare I raise questions about class politics in this movie, take a look at this data. <a href="http://www.365gay.com/news/study-black-gay-couples-fall-behind-earnings-of-straight-couples/" rel="nofollow">http://www.365gay.com/news/study-black-gay-couples-fall-behind-earnings-of-straight-couples/</a></p>
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		<title>By: elg</title>
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		<dc:creator>elg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah&#039;s Arc: Jumping the Broom is a comedy (or, perhaps,  a dramedy). My Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary, 11th  edition,  says that a comedy is a &quot;drama with a happy ending&quot;. It  also defines a  dramedy as a &quot;comedy having dramatic moments&quot;.  Based on these definitions, a  comedy (or dramedy)  is SUPPOSED  to have a happy ending.  One is expected to &quot;suspend disbelief&quot; when watching a comedy (0r dramedy). It is not supposed to be &quot;realistic&quot;.  What do you consider realistic? A poor black gay man going thru ghetto changes.

I read somewhere that the film was 101 minutes long: that&#039;s one hour and 41 minutes. I expected there to be boring stretches and there weren&#039;t any.  I also read somewhere that it was a 15 day shoot so  I expected to be disappointed (the movie LOOKS pretty good) and I wasn&#039;t.

You wrote, &quot;it relies way too heavy on the upwardly-mobile, bourgie aspirational lifestyles that seem unrealistic. &quot; We black gay men don&#039;t all live in the slums. I am, for example, a black gay man and a homeowner (my home is paid for) and I bought my 2006 vehicle brand new. More to the point, there are black families who have lived on Martha&#039; s Vineyard for GENERATIONS. I&#039;m sure that some of those black families have black gay sons.  You  should get around more.  You wrote &quot; they clearly don’t know any lesbians or transwomen.&quot; Neither do I. Not by design, I just don&#039;t know any.  You also wrote &quot;... it doesn’t need to be deep.&quot;  Is there such a thing as a &quot;deep&quot; comedy/dramedy? If so, name one (or two).

Finally, you wrote, &quot;it’s a good time ... much of the film is laugh out loud funny... I was never bored ...&quot;. I agree with this and, honestly, what else does any reasonable person EXPECT from a COMEDY?

And the Ernest Hardy review in the Village Voice sucks.  On what basis was his review &quot;totally fair&quot;? What movie did he see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah&#8217;s Arc: Jumping the Broom is a comedy (or, perhaps,  a dramedy). My Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary, 11th  edition,  says that a comedy is a &#8220;drama with a happy ending&#8221;. It  also defines a  dramedy as a &#8220;comedy having dramatic moments&#8221;.  Based on these definitions, a  comedy (or dramedy)  is SUPPOSED  to have a happy ending.  One is expected to &#8220;suspend disbelief&#8221; when watching a comedy (0r dramedy). It is not supposed to be &#8220;realistic&#8221;.  What do you consider realistic? A poor black gay man going thru ghetto changes.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that the film was 101 minutes long: that&#8217;s one hour and 41 minutes. I expected there to be boring stretches and there weren&#8217;t any.  I also read somewhere that it was a 15 day shoot so  I expected to be disappointed (the movie LOOKS pretty good) and I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You wrote, &#8220;it relies way too heavy on the upwardly-mobile, bourgie aspirational lifestyles that seem unrealistic. &#8221; We black gay men don&#8217;t all live in the slums. I am, for example, a black gay man and a homeowner (my home is paid for) and I bought my 2006 vehicle brand new. More to the point, there are black families who have lived on Martha&#8217; s Vineyard for GENERATIONS. I&#8217;m sure that some of those black families have black gay sons.  You  should get around more.  You wrote &#8221; they clearly don’t know any lesbians or transwomen.&#8221; Neither do I. Not by design, I just don&#8217;t know any.  You also wrote &#8220;&#8230; it doesn’t need to be deep.&#8221;  Is there such a thing as a &#8220;deep&#8221; comedy/dramedy? If so, name one (or two).</p>
<p>Finally, you wrote, &#8220;it’s a good time &#8230; much of the film is laugh out loud funny&#8230; I was never bored &#8230;&#8221;. I agree with this and, honestly, what else does any reasonable person EXPECT from a COMEDY?</p>
<p>And the Ernest Hardy review in the Village Voice sucks.  On what basis was his review &#8220;totally fair&#8221;? What movie did he see?</p>
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